I agree with Amy. We definitely need the National Chair and Futurity Chair at the Board meetings. I personally think we might be better off cutting back about 4 Board members and putting that money into a Lobbyist to fight some of this poor Legislation that is going to bury us. We need to possibly come together with other Parent Club Organizations to pool our resources on these bad bills and a lot better Public Relations for Breeders, pets, Guide Dogs, Police Dogs, Search and Rescue Dogs, Border Patrol Dogs, Therapy Dogs, FFA, 4-H,......etc. Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.Marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Amy Safdir To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:54 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Board meetings (Long) As a member of the GSDCA I like knowing that our Board is taking the time to meet face to face to take care of the business of our club. If you want to cut costs you could look into cutting down the number of Board members and also make it automatic for the National Chair and the National Futurity Chair to automatically be Board members. It is essential they attend and are up on everything the Board discusses. It would save that extra expense money if they were automatically Board members. Just my opinion. Amy Safdir In a message dated 2/20/2009 7:27:47 A.M. Central Standard Time, pruett@xxxxxxxxx writes: understand the Board's reluctance to substitute a face-to-face meeting with technology. It's not quite the same as "being there." I certainly would not suggest that we meet via technology for every meeting as the there is value in the networking, team building, and camaraderie that is possible only when a group meets in person. The board certainly needs to meet in person when touring/evaluating a possible national site. BUT, I certainly think that a creative mix of meetings in person and via technology could both enable our GSDCA board to continue to work hard on the club's behalf and do so cost effectively, freeing up club resources for other club priorities (my pick would be legislative issues As a member of long standing,and as one who has served 30 yrs on and off on our GSDCA Boards under at least 8 different Presidents. I have to disagree , While conference calls have been used many times both by the Executive Board , Special Committees and even occasionally a full Board,in an emergency, It is not conducive to our type of operation. We are not a University,or a Big Business. Hopefully we operate in a business-like way,but our dog hobby is a very personal, emotional operation,and thrives on an open face to face discussion and settlement of dog related issues. Dog people are stubborn,independent people,and when you get 19-20 of them in the same room,each with their on opinion, you can really understand why we do our business best in an open ,face to face meeting. I know you are thinking of saving money. When I first served on the Board( under Burr Robins) we paid our own way ,and for many years after. I don't think we started getting any compensation until Bob Hamilton,and then it was only $100. I think our transportation became reimbursed, under Harold Sands. I have always found that conference calls can be manipulated by a chairman,and some participants never have a chance to speak. I was sorry that the Nomination Committee changed from face to face to conference calls,but at least ,in that ,the membership can add as many as they want. I'm sure you will understand,after you've served on the Board several years,but we all do appreciate your interest,and suggestion,and I personally thank you for your participation Helen Miller Fisher ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================