Anyone who thinks Denver, Colorado is in the MW needs to go back to geography class.Dictionary definition: Colorado," a western state" Utah: "A state in the western US." Texas" A state in the SW." so don't argue with me, take it up with Webster , the surveyors who platted the map of the US and their sources, who obviously don't know as much as much as some on the Board and others who continue to believe that Colorado is in the MW. So, let me get this right..3 out of 4 national sites have the word "west" in their definition, and the majority of exhibitors( not club members, but actual exhibitors who provide entries for the National) typically live east of Kansas City, MO and the state of Texas. Historically, even though the numbers of members might be large in some western states, such as CA, WA and OR..in total it cannot compare with the numbers of all of the states east of KC. Add to this that the states that embody the NW, MP,SP, SW( in some cases) and others west of the Rockies never seem to be able to enter and exhibit the number of dogs that are typically entered and shown in the MW, SE, SW( in some cases) and GL, MA and NE regions.I use these geographical terms also to point out that futurity numbers also support my "entry" theory. with airline travel being as it is, it seems extremely logical to ask the majority of members who show the greatest number of dogs to fly across the nation with fewer dogs so that we can have a national with a smaller entry. If I ever decide to start my own business, I want to use these same type of logistics..it is a certain recipe for success.LOL!.Also, since airlines are becoming ever more restrictive, and flights and lay overs are becoming fodder for the news on a daily basis, and gas at 3.00+ a gallon being a great incentive to consider driving 20+ hours so that you might be able to bring more dogs to provide a better entry , we are witnessing common sense at its highest level. So at the end of the day, I can see how it is again quite logical that another "western" site should be chosen in 3 out of 4 years. Moral of the post: You can't argue with insanity, so don't try, I already know I am nuts. hckryhillgsd@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Steve and Christine Grainger WWW.HICKORYHILLGSD.COM > [Original Message] > From: Edwin Hill <edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx>; freelist <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: 7/29/2007 11:04:01 AM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Board meeting nationals update > > Unless I am mistaken The board decided that Utah was in the West, I agree...and Denver is in the Central..I agree again....Gary S in jest stated that the whole country is in the Central...lol...what does he know...Ed > Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: No, No! I am in Minnesnowta, one block from the Mississippi River. This is the Midwest. Utah is way West and should not be considered a site in the Midwest. It is not within driving distance for me. This will mean having to fly four years in a row. I hope I will get to drive to a National again in my lifetime! > > Zoa > Dr. Zoa Rockenstein > www.riverrockshepherds.com > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: David Fritsche > To: "Showgsd-L@Freelists. Org" > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:09:29 PM > Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Board meeting nationals update > > > my question is this site considered the west coast national or a midwest > national LOL > > Sally > > It's way east Sally - Way east! > Dave > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. 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