[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Board Meeting and Standard

  • From: Peg Kurz <gatlinp@xxxxxxx>
  • To: EJDegen@xxxxxxx, showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 29 Jan 2013 18:31:59 -0500 (EST)

Thank you Julie--avoice of reason crying in the wilderness


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From: EJDegen <EJDegen@xxxxxxx>
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Sent: Tue, Jan 29, 2013 12:20 pm
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Board Meeting and Standard


I am not sure what board meeting Diane called in to listen to, but I had a  
ompletely DIFFERENT experience than she did...and I was actually IN THE  
OOM for the entire meeting, seeing and hearing what went on, including the  
riday night work session.  I flew into Atlanta to attend the board meeting  
I am not on the board) and arrived in the early afternoon on Friday.  I  
idn't leave until Sunday afternoon.  

IRST:  I thought most of the board handled themselves  professionally and 
ith a business-like decorum.  There may have been  a couple of board 
embers that were whispering to one another, asking for a  clarification or 
omething or another, but it was not disturbing to those  in the meeting at all.

ECOND:  At no point was the meeting a "free for all".  Our  president, 
rank Fasano, kept GREAT control of the meeting, and it was even  "said" a few 
imes (not during the meeting but during breaks), that if anything,  he was 
VER using his gavel and had "too much control"!  I don't agree with  that 
ither, I felt that Frank's demeanor and professionalism in  running the 
eeting was fair to all.  I've not attended many GSDCA board  meetings, but I 
ave been in many other kinds of meetings and Frank is SUPERB at  running a 
eeting.  

HIRD:  The meeting was conducted following an agenda, and everyone  had a 
opy of that agenda.  Frank called on members of the audience (GSDCA  
embers) when appropriate, but he followed the agenda to the letter.

OURTH:  When listening in on a conference call, you can not  POSSIBLY be 
etting the feel for the meeting.  ALL MEMBERS OF THE GSDCA ARE  INVITED TO 
TTEND BOARD MEETINGS IN PERSON.  I was welcomed warmly by all  board 
embers. If you want to see how they're run, THEN ATTEND ONE.

IFTH:  The microphone picks up whispered conversations, and there  were 
everal times that people in the audience had a phone ring (I'm not aware  of 
ny time that a Board member had a phone ring), or were asking questions of  
ne another (quietly and trying not to be disruptive, but the microphone 
till  picks it all up).  

IXTH:  The meeting itself was interrupted with the EXTREMELY  rude 
ehavior of several people who were listening in on the conference  call.  If 
ou 
o call in, PLEASE mute your phone.  We heard people  talking to others at 
heir home, dogs barking, etc.  Now THAT was a  "free for all".  

EVENTH:  Keep in mind, these people are VOLUNTEERS. They ALL  gave up 
heir weekend (and took vacation days from work, or if self-employed,  just gave 
up work), some gave up extra days as they had to be there on  Wednesday, 
nd they ALL lose money attending these meetings. The food prices are  
utrageous and their "daily stipend of $25" was almost completely blown by  
reakfast (I think the breakfast buffet was about $20, lunch was $25, and you  
ouldn't eat dinner for under $30).  No one is getting rich by serving on  this 
oard, and they work VERY VERY hard.  

BOUT THE STANDARD:  The board IS NOT TRYING TO CHANGE THE  STANDARD.  They 
annot.  A committee was appointed to look in to some  items in the 
tandard (coats and color) that some members have professed an  interest in 
esearching further.  IF that committee decides to bring it to  the membership, 
he 
NTIRE GSDCA MEMBERSHIP WILL VOTE ON ANY CHANGES IN THE  STANDARD.  If YOU 
on't want any changes made in the standard, vote against  it!  Every member 
f the GSDCA, on the board or not, will be allowed  to vote.  If you are 
ot a member of the GSDCA, then JOIN IT if you  want to vote.  If you are not 
 member of the GSDCA and you don't CARE  about the standard, then don't 
oin.  You can only affect change by being a  member.  

ulie Degen



n a message dated 1/28/2013 5:06:30 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
howgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
sg: #3  in digest
rom: Kmgraphic2@xxxxxxx
ate: Mon, 28 Jan 2013 16:42:29 -0500  (EST)
ubject: re the standard is a moving target
I am replying to  Zoe’s post, (below), because it was succinct.  Also,  
oe 
as  one of a handful of BOD members who handled herself professionally and 
 
ith business-like decorum.  (Before anyone asks, yes, I did call in  and  
isten to the BOD meeting Saturday … even waited when the  conference 
all line 
ent down for a little while.)  It was quite an  interesting meeting and I  
eally wish that more members had “tuned  in.”  
asically, many portions  of the meeting were a total  free-for-all.  There 
as no discernable order  and everyone was  talking over everyone else, 
egardless of who had the floor; it  was  almost embarrassing to listen.
The discussion of the proposal for a  change in the GSD Standard is summed  
p well in Zoe’s post.   It’s the last line, “Remember that 
many 
f these  
hanges are  being done to be more inclusive, to get more people involved 
nd 
or   economic improvement of clubs’” that really concerns me and 
that 
ine  
s a good  summation of the BOD’s intent.
At what cost TO  THE BREED are we supposed to allow the bastardization of  
ur  standard?  
<cut>
JMO, flame away, folks,
iane  

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