It's a great thought, but probably a moot point. One of the big problems with Puppy Millers is that they don't invest in medical care. Since no dog survives Torsion without an expensive surgery, there probably aren't many (if any) candidates there. - Janice In a message dated 2/17/2007 2:39:22 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, almanya@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: If he in fact truly loves this breed and wants to be involved personally, then "we" don't owe him anything or ever will. He owes the breed just like the rest of us do. I am forever indebted to this wonderful breed. happily! Maybe he should get out there and do some work for this breed instead of lipservice about how wonderful he is............. His actions speak louder than words, and he could also anonymously help the breed he loves and not ever expect a pat on the back. Because the only pat you get on the back is the absolute love of these dogs. It's really all anyone should need. So far all i have seen is he's all about his own appearance and how great he is........... How he has made a huge living off of mass producers and supplying a product,,,,i didn't hear anything about the things he wants to do for our breed or anything respectable to show his true love and dedication to the German Shepherd breed. So if he loves this breed he owes it ...................... Amy Safdir Almanya Shepherds www.almanyagsd.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Windwalkergsds@xxxxxx> To: <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>; <Santanagsd1954@xxxxxx>; <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2007 3:43 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Bloat/Torsion DNA MARKER..LONG > I would be a bit uncomfortable because I don't think we should ever be in > a > position of "owing" him anything. If he wanted to do that privately and > not > as a member, we could say he did one nice thing. Maybe if he did several > nice > things, like use his "fabulous" facilities for rescue dogs and helped get > rid > of the puppy mills, etc., we might even ask him to join us. Oh > yeah....and > the incinerator would have to go. > JMO > Jamie Janice Buchanan Wasatch-Gold German Shepherds _http://wasatchgold.brinkster.net/_ (http://wasatchgold.brinkster.net/) "If our dogs were smarter, they could tell us what they were thinking. If we were smarter, they wouldn't need to." ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================