Yes, it would be good to put the First Aid kit items on the List again.? I have a travel kit for the dogs in my RV and a whole cabinet of items in the house.? But, it always seems I am missing the one thing I need when I need it. The vets use GasX for bloat so I guess that is a good thing to have handy.? If the puncture instrument is a trocar, that is normally used in sheep and cattle.? I could tell you where to puncture one of them for bloat but would be terrified to puncture my dog.? If anyone has used a feeding tube for pups, the tubing for bloat is the same thing but a lot more difficult?on a large adult dog.? I would tube my dog if there was no other option.?? Laura ? -----Original Message----- From: Stormy435@xxxxxxx To: dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx; Stormy435@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Fri, 15 Feb 2008 9:46 am Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Bloat First Aid Page I probably wouldn't either, Sheila. But for those who are more able than I, having this kit around could be good. A while back (a long while, if I'm remembering right) there was a informative thread on first aid kits with which to travel and to have handy in the house. Seems there was "GasX" or something like that, and i'm remembering some form of a "puncture" instrument? Am I remembering right, Listers? Maybe we need to be reminded again of what to have handy. Not only for Bloat. Stormy In a message dated 2/15/08 9:41:47 AM, dgshwpromo@xxxxxxxxx writes: > I don't think, with all I do know, that I would be comfortable pushing a > tube down my dog's throat, and I would worry about hitting and damaging > tissue.? That is just me. > ? > I took about 20 minutes to get her in front of a vet, and it took them 45 > to decide I was right.? She is fine, but it was stomach and spleen, if it had > been intestinal torsioun, I doubt she would be alive now.? That was long > enough for tissue damage, but it it had been intestinal, tubing would not > have > worked anyway. > sheila > > "You may never know what results come from your action. But if you do nothing, there will be no result." ?????????????????????????????????????????? Mahatma Gandhi Stormy Hope *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* Dog's love is different, it requires no return www.FairhopeGSD.www ************** The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy Awards. Go to AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================