If Black is a recessive,then why do I have so many and cant seem to get rid of that color? HAHAHAHAHA. Back to lurking, Nancy Schneider Schneiderhof Shepherds Est. 1981 In a message dated 1/21/2008 7:30:09 P.M. Central Standard Time, petercacioppo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: Dear Vicki, The sire has two color factors, the dam has two color factors. Each puppy gets "a" color factor from the sire and "a" color factor from the dam, and just one from each parent. Black is the least dominant of the GSD colors. Thus, if the sire looks like a black, his other color factor by definition has to be black (since if it was another color factor, say black and tan, then that would show itself as it is dominant over black, and thus the sire would look like a black and tan). Same reasoning on the dam. Thus, the sire can only give a black factor since that is all he has to give, and the dam can only give a black factor since that is all she has to give also. Thus, each puppy would get a black factor from his sire and a black factor from his dam, and thus every puppy would have two black factors and thus they would all be black. Further questions go to Ed Hill aka Flower Boy as he has GSD color factors nailed down! Peter Cacioppo, Moraga, CA Please support The American German Shepherd Dog Charitable Foundation, Inc. (www.agsdcf.org , which tries to improve the health of GSDs) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================