Yes, STATISTICALLY it is 50%.? However, that does not mean if you breed a Black to a Black & Tan carrying the Black recessive that if you have 10 puppies you will always get 5 blacks?& 5 b&t's.?? You could do that breeding and get any # of each.? You could do the breeding once and get 5 & 5.? You could repeat it and get 2 blacks?& 8 b&t's.? Over many litters of the same breeding you should end up about 50/50.? Also, in the above example the black parent ONLY has black genes to give, so ALL black & tan offspring will carry the black recessive.? Jeff Pyle -----Original Message----- From: JANGSD@xxxxxxx To: genoaktortoise@xxxxxxxxxxx; VSabiaB@xxxxxxx; showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 8:33 pm Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ~~Black bred to a Black question Hi Amy You will get 50% blacks if one parent is solid black and the other is a black and tan whose sire or dam was a solid black. And yes, you can only get solid blacks if you breed one solid black to another solid black (or a blue!) Janet _www.JanMarGsd.com_ (http://www.JanMarGsd.com) **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape. http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?NCID=aolcmp00300000002489 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================