[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Black & Red and Black Sables...bi-colors.

  • From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <gsdbeth@xxxxxxx>, <cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <proudk911@xxxxxxxxx>, "'SHOW LIST'" <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2015 08:13:55 -0800

Good photos Beth.    And.....a Bi Color with a gray undercoat is NOT a
sable!
A sable is pretty obvious, as is a bi color.   A bi color is just that.  A
dog with
TWO colors and no shadings or blending of other colors.
 
Carolyn  marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
 
From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Beth Andrews
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2015 5:43 AM
To: cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; proudk911@xxxxxxxxx; SHOW LIST
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Black & Red and Black Sables...
 
These are Black Sables
 
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015 10:11 PM, "cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx"
<cnnpmm2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
 
Jen writes: "Jen P & her Pack laughing about the semantics knowing that what
I register as "tan", most of y'all would consider "red" (my reasoning being
that I don't think it is red when you compare to what internationally is
considered red..."

Hmmm...  I'd love to see one of your dogs that you say you registered as tan
which most of us would consider red.  Have you imported or bred European
black&red dogs? Do you attend many SV shows?   Just curious because when I
went to your website,  all I saw were whites.

BTW, "most of y'all" is quite the hasty generalization.


Paulette McGuirt
Wellborn-Allemande GSDs
On 1/21/2015 12:20 AM, Jen Proud wrote:
it appears that what people think "is" a certain color or pattern is a
matter of either opinion or semantics.  
So it leaves me wondering, hearing the talk about "black" sables. For those
willing to answer, how would you describe the look of a black sable?  Or now
that we can post pictures, a picture would work great too!
 
Just throwing it out there, thinking along the lines of how we can become
more effective in promoting our breed and all about it in a consistent
manner all around the nation, and the positive effect that would have for
the breed if we were unified in our terminology at least 
 
Jen P & her Pack laughing about the semantics knowing that what I register
as "tan", most of y'all would consider "red" (my reasoning being that I
don't think it is red when you compare to what internationally is considered
red... We'd almost call it "mahogany" here in America!) oh and to me, a
"black" sable is one who looks just like a bicolor until you part their hair
to reveal the undercoat being phaeomelanic instead of eumelanic


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