I thought I explained that I was "old" and "old habits never die"...........<G> Saying you have had Monorchids is a much more serious thing than saying you have a Cryptorchid. With Cryptorchids, the testicle(s) is hidden, undescended. While a Monorchid never grew testicles at all. The only way to know for sure would be to operate in search of testicles. The books say, that generally a missing testicle(s) will be found in the abdomin and that Monorchids are actually quite rare. When I hear someone use the term Monichid to describe a puppy they sold with missing testicles, I wonder why they are being so hard on their own line. Kate ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================