I see it is time> for the GSD Bi-Color questions. To save > Carolyn Martello and or Tedi Ginsburg from having to send their once a year> answers to the question, I copied and> pasted from my web page the answer>> > The only colors of German Shepherds are Sable, Black> > and Tan, Bi-Color and Black. Sable is the most dominant > > and Black is the least dominant. The Sire will have two color > > factors and the Dam will have two color factors. The puppy > > will get one of its two color factors from the Sire and one from> > the Dam. Thus if a puppy gets a Black color factor from its> > Sire and a Bi-Color factor from its Dam, the puppy will be a Bi-Color > > in looks and will have one Bi-Color factor and one Black factor, > > since as stated above, Bi-Color is dominant over Black.> > Peter Cacioppo, CFP...Eagle Hill ************************************* Interesting.......I was going to try to stay out of this bi-annual / bi-color discussion this time. I am no expert on color inheritance because most of the time color doesn't matter to me.........but this one really surprised me. We have gotten bi-colors since we started in the Breed with a bi color bitch and have never EVER found this to be the case! ( black gene needed ) We have always had bi colors off and on through the years, and NEVER, EVER had a dog that carried the solid black factor until we used CAISSON for breeding! If bi-color is one of "the colors" in the Breed.......why would it "need" one parent to carry the black factor to be a bi color? Does a black and tan "need" another color on one parent to result in a black and tan? They either carry the black and tan gene ( or not ) and I believe it is the same with bi colors. Solid black being a recessive obviously needs both parents to carry the gene. Why would a bi color need a solid black to produce a bi when it is it's own self color.......it is not a color you "build to"......? ANDRETTI produced a lot of of bi colors.....did he, or all those bitches carry the black factor? I don't THINK so..............??? My assumption and experience has always been that the bi color inherits the bi color factor from one of the parents ......NO solid black gene is needed???? Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================