I know that the working lines do have a lot of sables. A friend who is breeds and owns only German show type dogs told me that the show people don't care for the sable color because the working lines have so many of them. She however, does have a really nice sable male that she is showing in the German shows. Sue Mazzeo >>> Joan Fox <campaigners@xxxxxxxxxxxx> 12/29/04 11:28 AM >>> I wonder why the German dogs are not bi's? I am sure there are a few but I have never found one in the books. Few sables or blacks as well. Anyone know? http://campaignergsds.netfirms.com/ -------Original Message------- From: sue.mazzeo@xxxxxxxxxx Date: 12/29/04 13:37:45 To: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Bi-Color Inheritance in GSDs, only. The one thing about bi-colors is that they are what they are at birth. They do not change colors like black and tans do. There also seem to be some modifiers at work on German Shepherds. In the old time photos, there were bi-colors with definite eye brow and cheek markings. We seem to have lost that in most of our bi-colors today. Sue Mazzeo >Msg: #3 in digest >From: DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx >Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 12:56:39 EST >Subject: Re: Bi-Color Inheritance in GSDs, only. >Yes, it is my understanding that they have to have black hocks or >predominently black hocks with black penciling on their toes. >But I still say it is just a really dark black and tan,, LOL >Regards >Debbie Kaser CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This communication with its contents may contain confidential and/or legally privileged information. It is solely for the use of the intended recipient(s). Unauthorized interception, review, use or disclosure is prohibited and may violate applicable laws including the Electronic Communications Privacy Act. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender and destroy all copies of the communication. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================