The rule exists but is often ignored, for a variety of reasons. The point of the discussion was whether other wins would be disallowed if a dog quit competing at any point........in all my years of showing dogs I have never heard of this happening in the AKC. The rules that ARE enforced are the ones about awarding Reserve (can't be done until Winners has been awarded) and Best of Winners (both dogs must be present.) Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Becky" <zarniwoop1973@xxxxxxxxx> To: <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2008 9:23 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Best of Winners > I've twice gotten nastygrams from AKC and had class placements rescinded > for not getting a dog in the ring for Winners. I had ring conflicts, and > in one case, I had the dog standing by, but the person that had offered to > help wandered off. I found that one judge even tried to have me benched, > but the Rep advised against it. > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================