[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Berger Blanc Suisse letter

  • From: Karen M. Carloni <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 22 Mar 2015 00:28:49 -0400

On Wed, 18 Mar 2015 18:14:25 -0700, "David Fritsche"
<d_fritsche@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>I am not sure I understand the entire thing, but my impression of the board's
>decision was not to give a letter specifically to or for the club who presented
>the issue to the board. The problem is, for us to do so places our stamp of
>approval on that one club.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
With loving and much respect to David, that is not how it
works.

This new club has (or had at the time of the meeting) 12
members who owned 30 imported BBS which are
foreign-registered and not AKC-registered. Any way you
look at it, that is just not diverse enough of a
population of people and dogs as necessary to get this
breed and club into the Herding Group... or even the
Miscellaneous Class for that matter!! They would go where
all new-to-AKC breeds go and where AWSA asked that all
interested owners of wGSDs/WSs should have their dogs go:
into AKC's FSS. Also, for those who are not aware, the FSS
is strictly a *recording* service, similar to the ILP, or
whatever they are calling it now, except that FSS dogs are
allowed to be un neutered and still be able to use the
service. Once a breed goes to the FSS, the task of picking
and "approving" the Parent Club for that breed  belongs to
AKC alone. Therefore, GSDCA would not be putting any sort
of stamp of approval on that or ANY other club. If a
letter would have been granted, it would have simply
allowed the BBS people to get going on the road to full
recognition, which would be a VERY long way off into the
future. You simply cannot compare this to the Mini
American Shepherd as there were SCADS of those dogs and
their owners already in existence. And that is why they
will be in the Herding Group very soon. Not the case for
any independent "white" shepherd dog!

>There are several clubs all going different directions and wanting different 
>things.
>How can we choose between them or should we?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
No. The GSDCA should not. As I stated above, the entity
whose responsibility it would be to pick the parent club
from among any and all existing clubs, is AKC alone!

>Possibly if there was a more defined group and a more defined agenda amongst 
>them
>all, then we could move forward without choosing sides within the white clubs.

The members and current Board of AWSA have stated they are
very open to the possibility of working with the wGSD
clubs to see if we can find some compromise. After all...
We can all come together for the betterment of the health
and genetics of wGSDs/WSs via the WS H&G Project. So why
not? To this end, a Facebook group was established for
discussion. I and others from this discussion list have
joined that group, but to date, no one has said anything.
Maybe everyone has been very busy with showing or Spring
puppies or whatever?

For those who do not know the whole story...

AWSA was going to make another presentation to update the
GSDCA on what has been going on since our last such
presentation. Our longtime "delegate" to GSDCA, Ms.
Melanie Fuellgraf, was going to attend the meeting, along
with our current club President and Breed Recognition
Committee (BRC) Chair to present to the Board. However, at
the very last minute, it came to the attention of our
(AWSA) Board of Directors ***from Melanie***, that if the
White Shepherd or the subject of breed separation was
brought up, that GSDCA would shut it down and any vote on
a letter or whatever would automatically fail. It didn't
seem logical for AWSA members to pay good money to fly to
the meeting and not be able to say or do anything, so
plans for AWSA to attend were cancelled. Melanie went by
herself to represent the "BBS Club of America", a club
none of us even knew existed. She did this, despite the
fact that she was still a member of AWSA and, supposedly,
working with AWSA and its BRC on recognition on the WS as
a separate breed. The AWSA club was totally blind sided by
this very severe conflict of interest on Mel's part.

This new club is made up of former members of AWSA and/or
the United WS Club (UKC) who have imported dogs from
Europe and are under the very incorrect assumption that
their homebred dogs are Berger Blanc Suisse. They are NOT.
Unless something changes, this is and will remain, totally
untrue. Our North American white dogs, whatever we choose
to call them, which were imported back into Europe and
other countries and used to "create" the BBS have, by
decree of the Swiss parent club for the BBS breed, been
cut OUT of the BBS gene pool because they either have
German Shepherds close-up in their pedigrees, or because
they are actually registered with AKC as German Shepherds
themselves. Not every FCI country must abide by this Swiss
club decree, but most will or have. If GSDCA had granted a
letter to the "BBS Club of America", only those existing
30 dogs plus any that will be imported in the future,
would be eligible to enter the FSS as "Berger Blanc
Suisse".

And that is the story of that, in a nutshell. Hope it
makes sense and helps to clear up any confusion.
--
Karen C.
Email: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx

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