On Sun, 17 Feb 2008 11:43:18 EST, Stormy435@xxxxxxx wrote: >The difference between the field Irish Setter and the=20 >field Goldens and Labs. They may all fit the standard,=20 >but oh, the difference!=20 In the case of field Irish, *some* fit the Standard. Most do not! And in the case of the FDSB (Field Dog Stud Book) Red setter, it is considered a totally different breed by the members of the Irish Setter Club of America. It's also not a purebred Irish setter! Pointer, English setter and, I believe, Brittany blood were added several decades ago to improve size, speed and overall field performance. That's why FDSB Red setters are NOT eligible for AKC reciprocal registration today: the only breed so denied. This might all be changing very soon... or not. Recently, the Irish setter PC Board went to AKC and asked that AKC register and recognize the FDSB Red setter AS AN IRISH SETTER. And AKC said yes!! This is totally contrary to the wishes of the majority of the membership of ISCA and was made without any member input or a vote. There is now a huge fight going on to stop this. Unfortunately, the PC members are going to have their work cut out for them. Never underestimate the ability of AKC to screw people over or contribute to the ruin of perfectly good breeds!! * * * * * Karen C. kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx "May You Live In Interesting Times!" ...Chinese Curse ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================