Linda It happens= maybe not as blatant it is going on Sally You are quite right Sally.....just there was no one to complain at another one this same year. Molly============ ================= It is not just the futurities I am talking about it goes on at shows also. Since I have not been showing I read the list and show results and sometimes just scratch my head - wondering how these things take place. No not every show or week but enough to make me wonder- The majority of handlers and judges are good honest people it is the bad apples that make you wonder Sally www.embroiderybysally.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================