Unfortunately, it is that black and white in many cases. Especially when it comes to assisted living places. I have dealt with many cases where it has been debark the dog or "get rid" of it. Moving is not always an option either. De-barking is a relatively safe (there is always a risk with anesthesia) procedure that does NOT traumatize the dog. It is a huge myth to suggest dogs are emotionally disturbed by debarking. Debarked dogs can bark. Even if reduced sound comes out of their mouths, they don't seem to notice at all! Debarked dogs that are not being constantly disciplined for barking, in fact, tend to be much happier dogs! Ginger Cleary, Rome, GA Proud member GSDCA and Sawnee Mtn Kennel Club www.rihadin.com -----Original Message----- Honestly, I don't think it's that black and white. I would find a happy medium, a place I could afford that also accepts pets. Kris Kudel Kamelot Shepherds UPDATED http://mysite.verizon.net/krisbob1/ ===== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================