This website says this so might be why Hoobin's Gray Boy got his Championship. I know this is one of the reasons the GSD Breed Standard was changed. Blue (dd) dogs have noses ranging from light grey to almost black. It is genetically impossible for a blue dog to have a brown nose. Note, however, that sometimes grey dogs can occur that don't have the blue dilution gene. So an apparently "blue" dog may have a "Black nose and Dark eyes", because in fact it is a black dog with the greying gene rather than a proper blue dilute. Sometimes blues can also be very dark, so that their coat and nose appear almost black. It can be very difficult to tell whether such dogs are blacks or blues. http://www.doggenetics.co.uk/noses.html Theresa GSDCA Member scenecrest.geo@xxxxxxxxx -------------------------------------------- On Tue, 8/26/14, Sheree Moses <shereemosesgsd@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Ballots and Noses It is a question of a contradiction in our standard regarding dilutes and nose color Our standard describes blues/livers as a serious fault, yet says that a nose not predominately black is a DQ.This makes us look like dummies who really don't understand color inheritance in dogs. (Okay, maybe we don't) Blue dogs have gray noses, liver dogs have brown noses (or, dilutes have self-colored noses, if you want to be technical). So, should our standard change have proposed that we make blues/livers a DQ? Or that a nose not predominately black be a serious fault? We should do one or the other, and I guess the powers that be decided we didn't need another DQ. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION: http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================