In a message dated 8/27/06 9:51:44 AM Central Daylight Time, sheilaofmiami@xxxxxxxxx writes: > The problem with that is that the dog will loose it's desire to show off > over all. For the ring an alpha attitude is desired. NO takes away drive. > It > has it's place, but it does remove drive. > sheila - you need to READ the post - i said NOT to use the word "NO". may not be right for everyone, but i would never "grab the dog by the face, push down, so she is on the ground," under ANY circumstances. again, just me, but my dogs are taught to behave thru positive reinforcement, never negative. diane Diane Strasser Silstra German Shepherds "Dogs are not our whole life, but they make our lives whole." - Roger Caras ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================