Hi List. First we must BRAG!!! <G> Our brain child UAG1 Sturdevants Anvil Revarie CDX HT RN TC CGC TDI OFA has just complete her ADVANCED Rally title this past weekend with scores of 97, 96 and 98. YIPPEE YAHOO!!!!!! WAYTO GO DONNA & ARI!!!!!! And after asking Donna she tells me "Ari" CAN count & add too <G> says people get a kick out of it!!! We are so very proud of this girl & cant wait for her conformation career to get started again!! Ari's proud parents are: Ch Sturdevants Second Wind OFA-EL DNA "Shocker" ~X~ Sturdevant's Zima DNA ROM. Now our question...... Since the Rally event is an AKC recognized title does the Novice & advanced Rally titles count towards the PAM? Also does the PAM award give additional ROM pts to the sire & dam? If so how many? Lastly can someone explain in more detail how the PAM works (In private is fine THANKS!!) Oh one more question...... how come sire & dams DON'T get ROM pts for any Obed/Herding/Agility/Rally etc. titles UNTIL that animal receives at least a maj reserve or better? That doesn't seem fair, more kinda prejudice towards our smart/gifted less then show quality/(or non conformation interested owners) members of a litter. Thanks for letting us BRAG & ask questions!! HAPPY VALENTINES DAY TO ALL!!!!! Lorrie & Patrick _Welcome to Sturdevant's_ (http://www.sturdevantgsd.com/) - NEW 2004 ROM DAM STURDEVANTS ZIMA DNA ROM ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================