If someone figures this out I would be very happy. lol My CH Bitch bloated and torsioned at 12 1/2. She was sleeping when it started Not stressed and had not been exercising. ( she was 12 1/2) lol By the time we got to the ER it was way to late. I would not have put her through that anyway. Also my 9 1/2 year old spinning male bloated and torsioned. He should have done it a lot earlier in life as his pass time was spinning. Go figure. They were NOT related Cathleen Bennett & Joe Guay Raised with Love Sold With Care Vice President of San Bernardino/ Riverside GSDC _www.crossroadsgsd.com_ (http://www.crossroadsgsd.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================