It was interesting today.....Ed Hill was quiet and didn't tell more than two jokes....so it was very surreal.......<G> Levine had speakers that spoke mainly of numbers......"Millions spent on euthanizing dogs and cats and numbers of animals euthanized." He had a Vet that testified that having spayed and neutered thousands of puppies for a clinic at 8 weeks of age he had never had one health complaint from the early spay and neuter. A couple of workers at Animal Controls spoke on the numbers they destroy.....it was depressing. WE need to also understand where these people are coming from. THEY need to understand where these "numbers" are coming from. Bill Hemby of PETpac had some outstanding speakers for the "NO" side including some working with Service dogs that spoke about needing service dogs to be older than 4 - 6 months to make decisions on their capabilities and breeding quality......someone for Search and Rescue...and intelligent Vet that spoke on several issues. They were all highly qualified and gave intelligent outstanding arguments. There was an AKC Rep. that spoke quickly about Purebred dogs....... Mr. Levine made it clear it was only rumors that the bill was being pulled....but was squirming after some spoke on the "NO" side ( in my opinion ) and began to talk about 'negotiating' ammendments and wanted to amend the bill right there! Wally Cox ( REMEMBER TO VOTE FOR HIM ) said he had not seen anyone so "ammendment minded" and a bill so "ammended" and that it only continued become more unnacceptable with each ammendment and saw no purpose in adding another "shoot from the hip" ammendment and refused to agree to that. Finally the chair suggested Levine take until January to clarify his ammendments and bring it back and it was pretty much over after that. My impression ..........Had we not had Bill Hemby's quickly formed PETPac in the last two months there to represent our side.....WE WOULD HAVE LOST TODAY !!!!!!!!! His group was prepared, articulate, well represented from ALL angles and they even had Lassie and Timmy ( from the well ) there and THAT attracted the T.V.cameras!!! At the Rally afterward....Weatherwax ( Lassie's breeder / trainer ) spoke to the cameras while showing off Lassie and said had this bill been in place a few years ago there would have been no Lassie then, and there would be no Lassie now!!! ( I heard one of the Press and some people in the crowd repeat that statement.......it struck home!! ) Someone with disibilities spoke on how she relied on her dogs and how they were a huge part of her life and how she would not have them if this bill was in place......The Press kept the cameras going PETPac even attracted the largest Cat Organization in the Nation and got a huge donation and lots of support from them and she spoke to the feral cat issue and about breeding purebred cats at the Rally and someone even had a cat in the crowd. Their group had afforded PETPac to have some T.V. time......and I believe it helped to save us. . I spoke to Kelly Moran afterwards and asked him if their intent was for PETPac to grow beyond California and he said PETPac hoped to have Nationwide impact soon.....but needs help of course. I asked him to write up some kind of mandate of their intent or plan on that level.......he said he would. Their success in pushing Mr. Levine into his corner was impressive to me.......I really do not believe it would have happened without them!!! Believe me..........there was a huge group of "YES" people there also!! We need to continue to organize.......stay vigilant and stay the course......and be willing to help. If this ever gets through in California.......it will be coming to a State near you!! At the Rally....another very effective person was standing in the crowd facing the cameras with a huge VOTE NO sign bravely facing all the T.V. cameras........by jove at second glance I realized it was Ed Hill...and yet he still refused to tell one joke........well.......maybe he got off ONE in the actual meeting....but I am just too smart to tell you what he said. <G> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx www.marhaven.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Edwin Hill To: freelist Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2007 12:19 PMSubject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Today in Sacramento I attended today's hearing on AB1634, sat next to GSDCA Board member Carolyn Martello ( an extremely smart woman)...both sides were given 20 minutes to speak and then the State Senators asked a few questions...Levine opened and several other pro AB1634 folks followed him...next the anti AB1634 folks spoke for 20 minutes....it was my opinion that Levine was clearly on the run, he offered the Senate more amendments to the bill, The Senate committee refused. It was my opinion that Levine wanted to pull this bill but he had to "save face" with his organization, who ever that is. It was finally agreed upon to shelve this Bill until January 08...so It ain't over, but if I read the Senate committee panel correctly the way the bill stands today is not going to fly...of course Carolyn may have gotton a different opinion. Levine however did impress me with one thing he said today...he said he had problems with the opposition because "they" have refused to acknowledge that there is a problem and they failed to meet and talk about agreeable solutions. I don't know if that's true or not, but the fact remains there is a problem and we do kill far too many cats and dogs in shelters...AB1634 goes way overboard in trying to correct the problem, however the "powers that be" on both sides of this issue need to get together soon and have honest discussions to resolve this issue!...I also spoke to a nice lady who shook my hand ( she was pro AB1634)....we both agreed on the subject of the AKC...I can't repeat what we said on this list.....two more weeks and I'm back to school!......FB ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. 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