[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Applause...
- From: " Oak Smith" <osmith@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <pruett@xxxxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2008 07:12:59 -0600
I understand what you are saying Laurie. But I think your friend Becky needs
to remind the handler just who they work for. When I see a dog or bitch I
like I applaud, regardless of who is showing them or even what I am showing.
When I have had a handler say "what were you doing?" I laugh at them. They
are paid to win not to appreciate good dogs showing well in the ring. I love
GSD's and will always show my appreciation for a good dog shown well. If my
handler can't "handle" that then it's time for both of us to find new people
to work with. There are more good handlers than 1
I have seen some all-breed judges who are not sure which of the dogs are the
best be influenced by applause, I have never seen a specialty Judge
influenced in that way. Could happen I just haven't seen it and I have tried
to no avail :{)
I remember showing my boy to BOB one time. Jack Reed was in the ring
showing too and he whispered to me "don't have anyone applaud as this guy
doesn't like it. But if you stare him in the eye when he walks by you'll
have it." Well I out stared Jack, I stared so hard my eyes bugged out and
sure enough we took BOB! :{)
Oak
Oak Ridge German Shepherds
Dedicated to the German Shepherd Dog
Signers of the GSDCA Breeders Code of Ethics.
www.oakridgegsd.blogspot.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurie Pruett" <pruett@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2008 6:09 AM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Applause...
> In response to Becky"s post below I want to make myself clear - I am NOT
> anti-applause. I am against using applause to influence judges and to
> make those who aren't part of the handler clicque feel excluded. Often
> that is how we use applause at ringside in our breed. And if you don't
> think that's what happens then you haven't shown in the Northeast very
> often. Becky herself told me (last June at the NE futurity weekend) that
> she was no longer able to applaud for anyone but dogs belonging to clients
> of the handler she was affiliated with - she wasn't happy about it but
> she was complying with the "order" from the handler.
>
> So, applause isn't used to show support for a good dog (for example -
> Becky can't applaud for a personal favorite unless her handler happens to
> be presenting it). It is used to influence the outcome with the "side
> effect" of making newcomers, owner handlers, and others outside of the
> "in-crowd" to feel excluded. It isn't conducive to recruiting new people
> to the GSD conformation ring. But, that's life, I guess, and I don't
> expect that it will ever change. Leopards
> don't change their spots. But, when it happens at a fun match (the entry
> point for many newcomers to our sport) - I think it's very rude and very
> wrong..
>
> JMO...
>
> Laurie
>
>
> I like applause. I like it whether it's for me or someone I am competing
> against. It makes the show FUN, removes some of the "stuffiness" (for lack
> of a better word) of all-breeds, and allows people to feel a part of the
> action in the ring - whether or not it affects the judging.
>
> I've been on the receiving end of the sound of crickets when some of my
> dogs have their individual. I've also enjoyed overwhelming crowd support.
> I don't care which end I get on any particular day since I breed and show
> dogs that I like, without giving much thought to what another breeder may
> prefer.
>
> That aside, if I wanted a silent competition, I would go to a chess match.
> As always, JMO.
>
>
>
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