[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Another question on: Understanding the GSD Standard
- From: randall chesnut <rchesnut70518@xxxxxxx>
- To: "bedkar@xxxxx" <bedkar@xxxxx>, "marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 8 Jan 2015 15:13:22 -0800
If he/she was superior to the rest of the class in every way I would award the
class. That is not to say, there may not be difficulties up the ladder.
Randy Chesnut
On Thursday, January 8, 2015 2:56 PM, Bedkar <bedkar@xxxxx> wrote:
Every Breed standard is specific to what the breed does and what defines type
in that breed.
Most Working, Herding and Sporting standards are very specific about correct
dentition.....
to the point that what can or can not be missing and what is correct bite and
what is permissible
is clearly defined. Dobes can have no more than 4 missing teeth but they can
not have any
extra teeth. In Leonbergers, full dentition is preferred but only a missing
3rd molar is allowed.
Australian Shepherds "strongly prefer" full dentition and a scissors bite .
If I were to get an overshot bite in any Working, Herding or Sporting breed in
the Group I would
be highly surprised....and no, I would not use it.....and,yes, I would probably
talk to the judge who
gave it BOB.
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From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Other Breeds don't even care about missing teeth....
Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
www.marhaven.com
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Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 10:48 AM
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I would think it would depend on the breed, some of them just don't care about
teeth or bite, I have not read all breeds' standards, but can think of the
bully breeds that have awful bites, the shit zu's, and all the Toy breeds also,
do bites matter in those? So if not a bite fault in the standard, they could
show up I would imagine.
Interesting point though.
Chris
Chris S. Kimerer
Hillside-Tanbark Kennels www.tanbarkgsd.com
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Sent: Thursday, January 8, 2015 12:41 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Another question on: Understanding the GSD Standard
I can't imagine an overshot dog in the Group ring.
Kathy, member GSDCA, DVGSDC
Celebrating generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions
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In a message dated 1/8/2015 1:37:36 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
stormy435@xxxxxxxxx writes:
I have another question and Chris’ example just reminded me ….
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>Judges out there: No dog is perfect, but if you were judging a group and one
>dog was far closer to the standard that the others, almost perfect in your
>eyes, BUT had an overshot jaw, what would you do?
>
>Stormy Hope
>
>On Jan 8, 2015, at 10:30 AM, Chris S. Kimerer (Redacted sender
>"tanbarkgsd@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>D.D.
>>When you say you looked up the definition, are you referring to Webster
>>Dictionary or AKC's definition?
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>>My first reactive answer would be that undesirable would be less serious than
>>a fault, so this is a very interesting point you are making. After just
>>reading the entire AKC Standard as published on it's website, I actually only
>>see one reference for undesirable:
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>>"An overshot jaw or a level bite is undesirable"
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>Stormy V. Hope
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