With trepidation, I ask another question... I've seen many winning GSDs in the breed ring who very obviously overreach greatly. Is this considered good movement, or is it a waste of motion, or inefficient movement? I'm not trying to provoke anything, just wanted to know how you all feel about this, is it a good thing, or a bad thing? Lynn In a message dated 7/10/2005 10:05:24 AM Pacific Daylight Time, Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: In theory, and in reality, if you read what I wrote, a dog with flapping hocks still can't achieve the true flying trot - it's wasting too much energy and is mechanically unsound. Aside from our love, and their beauty and personalities, the gait is the expression of a mechanical system of bones, joints, muscles and all the tissues that hold them together, and, like a car or any other moving system, if the structure isn't correct, it will not work at maximum efficiency, and will have probems at wear-points. The really unfortunate fact is that so few people have seen this gait that most don't know what it truely looks like. It's totally different from the movement that a sloppy hock action can give, or what a bad front can do. As a few people on the list have said, once you've seen it, you can't mistake anything else for it. Lynn Brown - Ebonystar Schipperkes/Angelsgate Rescue http://www.angelsgaterescue.com/ & http://www.schipperkerescue.com/ Post Office Box 92283 - Long Beach, CA 90809 (562) 428-9832 ...special dogs for special people since 1972 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================