We lost financially on our last conformation show, not sure at this point just how much. But I agree with Lee, it is getting tougher with rising costs to make ends meet. We are shopping around a bit more. We used a different ribbon company for the past show and our obed/rally show that is cheaper than where we were getting our ribbons, plus they even put our club logo on the ribbons. Saved a small amount and every bit helps. We got some of the show supplies donated, and we do need to work harder on this next time. I guess we are lucky that our performance shows draw very well, so next year we are applying to do 2 full weekends of rally and obedience. We made good money at the last show. For the clubs that only do conformation, well I do think it is going to be a serious problem for a long time to come. Travel, handlers etc are just getting to be too much for the majority. Most are staying closer to home and entering shows they can cut costs at, and very frequently, that is the AB show. Clustering the specialties with AB may be the only answer in the future, if an answer at all. Molly In a message dated 4/5/2010 9:32:07 A.M. Central Daylight Time, LeBrowngsd@xxxxxxx writes: With airfares in the $400.00 range to most part of the country it will require an entry of probably at least 40 to pay all the expenses and not go in the red. Paying for a judges expenses, ribbons, trophies, showsite, etc is getting more expensive. Ok how about some opinions on what is going on with the specialty shows. Very curious here as what to expect in the future. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================