In a message dated 1/10/2007 1:57:03 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Elsyd1@xxxxxxx writes: As someone once wisely said, you should be able to take away her food, her toy, her puppy....If one of my dogs growled at me FOR ANY REASON, I would do more than pinch their nose. Syd LOL Syd:) We're going to show our age w/ the breed here. Now the trend is for "feel good", "wait out the behavior" training. You know, follow the dog around, wait for a dog to sit, say "sit", then act like you won the lottery and praise the heck out of it? And, I agree...whatever my dogs have is mine, whenever I want it, no questions asked:) It starts from the time they are born, no heavy handedness and by the way, no hard feelings either:) Much the same as their momma would do, and I don't see the moms getting too concerned about certain areas of an out-of-line puppy they shouldn't put manners on <G>. How many times do you see the puppy's whole head in their mouth? Kathy member GSDCA, DVGSDC three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================