Now Evan, tell the whole story. The bitch that beat Honey that day finished and I believe that she was a BIF bitch, with majors under specialty judges. She even took a BOB over Ch. Harley, and other Specials, from the Open class, a few weeks earlier. Honey won her majors while handled by professional handler(s). When you show her, she is so very happy to be just running and romping next to you that no one can see her movement; when Summer showed her, well, she did her best with Honey, but, she is a very small child; Honey never lifted her head more than 6 inches from the floor. If her collar had been up higher and had you doubled her, she maybe would have done better? Harley went BOB that day; must have been his good feet, (or a handler who showed him to his best), eh? :-) All of our dogs competing that day had Specialty wins, under good, experienced Specialty judges....judges who have judged our National and/or other big, prestigious Specialties. All three of us have good dogs. All three of us have equal chances of winning when our dogs are well-groomed and well-handled. Don't you always say that you would rather lose while handling your own dog, than win with a handler on your dog?? Be careful what you wish for!! :-) :-) Paula, 188 days and counting Home of Best in Show, Multi-Group Winning, GSDCA Dual Title Award Recipient, AKC JAM/AOE, International and American Champion Asgard Harley Davidson v Plamark, HT, PT, CGC, TC, HIC, OFA (Hips, Elbows, & Heart) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: ELG440@xxxxxxx Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 19:01:39 EDT Subject: All-breed judges-Love Em or Leave Em ..........................I attended a few all-breeds in the last month. On one Sunday I allowed Summer, (a nine year old child) to take my bitch into the ring. This bitch has four majors under people such as Fran Fold. There were only two bitches in Open. When she went in, (in front) the judge went up to her and asked her where her mother was? Summer pointed out her mother, but told the judge this was not her bitch. The judge then put the other bitch in front before doing anything with them, and walked to the ring steward. I overheard her tell him, "If the dogs start to fight, grab the little girl." To me that told me we had a judge who had no knowledge of German shepherds, and didn't intend to look at them. The other bitch won, and was a very good bitch. But, I talked to the judge, (who was very nice), and she told me that we had a terrible situation in the breed because the feet weren't tight any more. She thought they should have feet as good as dobermen. Every few years I try to go back in the all-breed ring. Then I bitch slap myself upside the head, and stay away for another couple of years. I spend most of the time shaking my head when I leave an all-breed show. And, the word on this judge was that she knew a good German shepherd. Of course, I also was told she had lost the sight in one eye, and had a stye on the other eye. She was, however, very pleasant. Evan Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ____________________________________________________________ Free Credit Score A bad credit score is below 598. Click here to see yours for $0. Checking won't affect your score. By Experian® http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL3241/4bbbd7aa2009c1345a7st03duc ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2009. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================