In a message dated 12/15/2005 10:36:59 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, DOGSRLUV@xxxxxxx writes: Not all Specialty Dogs are extreme and Not all All breed dogs are Typy.......LOL Perfectly Said Deb, A great example is this years Select 2 Bitch Ch. Cathlin's Azeri of Hallmark, she is VERY moderate in her hind angulation, but powerful reach and drive, and has a shoulder to die for. This is a SPECIALTY BITCH that finished in four months at specialty shows will all majors, then in her FIRST All Breed weekend out with Ken a few months ago, went GROUP ONE AND GROUP TWO. There are MANY DOGS that do both venues well. We show/own several ourselves that excel in both venues. I think the fancy is slowly getting away from the super extreme angulation, which is wholly unnecessary anyway for correct sidegait, in favor of more balanced and athletic animals.....very slowly., lolol By the way Deb and Family WELCOME TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD!!!!!! Kathy WEBSITE UPDATED: NOV 29, 2005 _http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com_ (http://www.victorygermanshepherds.com/) VICTORY GSDs, There Is Something In A Name ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================