Oi, I most certainly can agree with you on that >.< It's a wonder that people don't trip over the dogs. And, my mind is broadening, by leaps and boumds. Believe me xD I remember when I had an absolute disdain for the American bred animal. When I finally started seeing a style that represented the older dogs that I preferred, they grew on me :D I loved the one I had, though I didn't have him near long enough. In a message dated 12/15/2005 12:35:09 PM Central Standard Time, DOGSRLUV writes: with the MAJORITY of the All Breed rings are to small and you simply cannot see the gate - Jackie Marcato Shepherds Where it's about function, not flash ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================