No, Evan, this is not what I was striving to accomplish. This particular bitch is out of my Windy. I just found out by accident (a friend congratulated me) that she was BOB, etc. etc. I am not for or against this new title. But I guess out of curiosity I wished to inquire how this Gr.Ch. thing works. Nothing more, nothing less. I really don't care one way or the other. Lee F. -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of ELG440@xxxxxxx Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 8:04 AM To: Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] All I want In a message dated 7/25/2010 7:42:25 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, lfossland@xxxxxxx writes: How many points do you get at a time toward Grand champion? How many points do you need to become a Grand Champion? It is funny how much this Grand Champion thing has hit. When I first heard of it, I thought it was nothing that would appeal to anyone. I guess it is like Reserve. All we want is the points. Nothing matters, we want the points. We win the class, we want the points. We go in for points, we want the points. Then we don't get the points. We immediately want the Reserve. All we want is the Reserve. The Reserve is the most important thing, the instant the other dog gets the points. If we can get the Reserve, we will be happy, if only the judge will give us the Reserve. Then we want the Breed. Nothing means anything, we want the Breed. Never mind Best Opposite Sex, we want the Breed. The Breed is the thing, up to the instant we don't get the Breed, then in an instantaneous change of heart, we want Best Opposite Sex, and nothing else. Just give us Best Opposite Sex, that is all we want. When we don't get Best Opposite Sex, all we want are Grand Champion Points. That is what is important in life, what we need, and all we want. If only we can get the Grand Champion points it will all be worth it and our lives will again have meaning. The number of points are earned by the number from the show,and you need 15 Grand Champion points for the Title. Just ask Paula, her male was the first male German Shepherd to become a Grand Champion. I have a copy of the certificate to prove it. Evan L. Ginsburg Asgard German Shepherds http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2010. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================