I thought everyone knew this! Syd In a message dated 3/22/2005 9:54:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, helen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: I JUST LOVE IT !!!!! (Helen Franklin) Evan wrote: I am sorry, but it is time to put this shoulder thing in the right perspective. The shoulder on the German shepherd is laid on correctly when the point of the humorous, (yes Paul, that is intended), is directly even with the center of the croup, 28 inches in front of, and even with the land on which the dog is moving, and 15 degrees above and directly under the 18th vertebrae measured from the bottom of the skull. The bottom of the elbow must be level and directly behind the fourth molar, and within a circumference set between the stifle joint and the fifth joint of the tail. This allows the dog to move correctly, and like a cat, without the nine lives, and with a much stiffer coat. This can be clearly seen when the dog is fully asleep and laying at a 56% angle from the wall, and while fully centered on its back. This will be clear when we finish the illustrated standard. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ ( <http://www.asgardgsd.com/> http://www.asgardgsd.com/) <http://www.asgardgsd.com/> http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================ SYD MAILBERG 425-432-4144 NEW FRIESIAN PAINTING ON WEBSITE 23910 SE 276TH ST MAPLE VALLEY, WA 98038 _http://www.kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com_ (http://kingswoodgermanshepherds.homestead.com/) ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================