[ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Age Old Ques....Waiting on the good ones
- From: "robert dir" <dir@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>, <marhaven@xxxxxxx>, <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:36:25 -0500
Hi Terry,
Could not agree with you more, Sandi
----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Cochran" <fairway97045@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <marhaven@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2005 2:49 PM
Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Age Old Ques....Waiting on the good ones
> How about the girls. I believe from what I have photographed that they are
more correct in size than they used to be. Lord there are some beautiful
bitches out there!!!!! Which of the studs do you feel sets breed type on the
girls? I could use a shot of pretty in my breeding program.
> Terry
> Carolyn <marhaven@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'm not sure I agree with these posts about finishing young dogs.......or
not.
>
> We finished BOSS at 18 mos. CASH about 20 mos. Both finished in about 5
weekends.
> BOOKER we didn't show till later as he is Canadian Bred and HAD to go into
OPEN....so
> he was about 2 yrs. when we started him. So far none have fallen apart
......nor
> died.
> I realize there is always tomorrow......
> I believe Winners Dog at the National last year was about 16 or 17 mos.
.....why NOT
> show him? This year he is Canadian Grand Victor.
> My point is......if a dog is good ....he is good enough! If a 17 mos. old
dog is the
> best
> dog at the National......good enough for Winners Dog and Select......WHY
would anyone
> want to sit home with him??? If he's going to get better...great.... there
is
> always
> Specials. If he's going to die young.......or old......showing him young
won't
> change
> the timing on either IMO.
> Showing a young dog at a few shows can be fun....if they WIN......who
would turn it
> down??
> Showing a dog that is older is great also......many factors come into play
as to why
> some
> are shown younger or older......with us it has to do with timing of the
show season &
> Judges.
>
> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxx
> www.marhaven.com
>
> ***************************************************
> This brings up a good question. Do you think that we tend to show dogs
younger than we
> use to in American and Open classes? It seems that many are finishing
before 2 years
> of age. I don't think males should be shown until they are 3. They look
more studly at
> 3. Terry
> ********************************************
> From: Peggy"
> To: Cc:
>
> >I think if you think about what you just wrote, you will see that the >
dogs haven't
> changed that much....they are just campaigned younger. > They certainly
are not
> faster
> maturing. Many are still deep bodied and > bulkier when they mature. I
can't stand
> the look of some of the dogs > today, all legs...they look like salukis
with
> different
> hair and ears, > some of them.
> > In a few other breeds, I know people started showing dogs seriously
> > at a younger age because the dogs fell apart by the time they matured.
> > So who was fooling who there?
> > I seem to remember a time when it wasn't unusual to hear of
> > so-and-so dying at 3 years of age, too...maybe people want to get those
> > titles before the dogs croak, huh?
> > This is a whole topic by itself, the campaigning of puppies and
> > young, immature dogs. You should hear the excuses the toy dog people
> > make..."oh, they lose their teeth by the time they are two" and all that
> > crap.
> > If the dog is good, he's going to be better at 4 or 5...what's the rush?
> > In other countries (in all breeds) you can't claim the title of Champion
> > until you win after a certain age...either a year or 18 months,
> > whatever..........when AKC brought that up, it was beaten so badly it
> > wasn't funny. So we have lots of puppy champions in all breeds, not
> > just teenage champion GSDs...and then you never hear from those dogs
> > again. Does this make sense to anybody?> Peggy
> ********************************************
> >
> > DaniaKarloff@xxxxxxx wrote:Terry,
> >
> >>I do think we are showing and finishing our dogs much younger. I am not
> >>certain of the reasons but my theory is that the style of dog that we
are
> >>showing today (dry and more angulated) lends itself better to a younger
immature,
> >>fleetier dog plus we have a variety of add on products to get our
puppies
> >>bigger/faster. Years ago, the winning dogs were deeper bodied and
heavier boned
> >>so you had to wait until they were over 3 or 4 years old to get that
> >>maturity. >>
> >>I often wonder (and I have no proof of this) if this faster maturity
leads
> >>to a shorter life span. Anyone has a theory on this?
> **********************************
>
>
>
>
>
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