I, also missed this entire thread........(some of us AOL folks were not receiving all the posts....................) Evan, you are stating all my sincere thoughts of Carolyn & Frank & the 'BOSS'. I have been bringing my girls to them since the 80's. Carolyn & Frank have become very Dear friends of mine. I can put my trust in them. They are the most HONEST. They have contributed so much to our breed with many years of devoted hard work. Carolyn & Frank are the most Honest, Kind, Intelligent & Knowledgeable folks. And 'BOSS' is one of the GREATEST GSD in every way. Erika & the TamarinGSD ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 12/10/2004 5:03:42 P.M. Pacific Standard Time, marhaven@xxxxxxx writes: you can call me wrong, fat, lazy, old, ugly, a no talent, or late for dinner, but I DO RESENT being called DISHONEST I missed this entire thread, but when someone does attack a person as honest, kind, intelligent, knowledgeable, ell meaning as a great friend as Carolyn, I will stand up and say what I believe. Also, to denigrate a great dog like the Boss is needless and just wrong. I can think of few people who mean more to me than Frank and Carolyn and who have worked long and hard for our breed. The Boss is one of only two or three dogs I have known that had such a fantastic mind and great quality. I didn't see the attacks and missed the entire attack, but while my opinion may not mean much, to pick the Martellos, (or either one of them) and The Boss to complain about, is wrong thinking, poor judgment, and useless posting. I have had a few stud dogs in my time, and I know you end up the target of many rumors. Truth will always outweigh those who would go in the other direction. I seldom say things like this, but I feel it needed to be said, and if you don't believe everything I have put her, take time to meet Frank, Carolyn or The Boss. You will agree. Evan _Asgard German Shepherds_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) http://www.asgardgsd.com/ Where Type Movement and Temperament come together >> ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2004. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================