Hi, Kathy, I tried e-mailing you privately to ask a couple of questions about your experience & the e-mail came back as un-deliverable - maybe if you e-mail me privately, I can then e-mail you back ???? Iza Kabuska http://www.karizmashepherds.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <Pinehillgsds@xxxxxxx> To: <marhaven@xxxxxxx>; <crystaridge@xxxxxxx>; <Lealynn@xxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 8:35 AM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: Question? chilled semen verses natural breeding > > In a message dated 9/21/2006 11:00:02 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > marhaven@xxxxxxx writes: > Our Vet and I.C.S.B. in our area will not do the trans cervical.....at > least > not on our Breed. > Success rates are a lot lower in GSD. Implants are the best method > for > all the expense > leading up to it. IMO. We've had almost 100% success with our studs > with implants. > > > > > I use Clone and currently, using T-C with extended we are 3 for 3. > > (We did have one miss on frozen, but the gal went through a false > pregnancy, > so I'm more inclined to feel something was up with that having nothing to > do > with the procedure). > > Now, to complicate matters, I don't take them the easy ones <G>. Of the > three bitches that we had success with, (not mine, I leased 2x was on the > stud > dog end 1x), they had not been able to conceive/carry a litter prior. So > that > 100%, 3 for 3 in my book is spectacular! > > Here's what's interesting to me; did you know the folks that do this, > ICBS/Symbiotics, Camelot, Clone, etc. don't play well together? For > instance, when > working w/ frozen, my (Clone) guy will only implant frozen that was > collected at a Clone-trained facility and preserved with using Clone > procedures. You > can stand on your head and he won't use ICBS collected/frozen sperm. > (He'll > send you someplace else and wish you well, but doesn't want, according to > him, to jeopardize his conception rate. I'm not exaggerating in the > least, > which, I know sounds pretty incredible seeing how it's my name on the > bottom of > the check!!!!) > > This leads me to believe that the collection/method to extend etc., plays > a > very important role, and again, has something to do with the wide range > of > success/disappointment we're hearing about. > > Good discussion, especially since it sounds as if we are all getting > different info from our repro people. > > Kathy > member GSDCA, DVGSDC > three generations of Dual Titled TC'd Champions live here! > > visit _Pine Hill German Shepherd Dogs_ > (http://www.geocities.com/pinehillgsds/) > > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues > ============================================================================ ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2006. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - URL temporarily deleted due to AOL issues ============================================================================