Doris, I did. Remember there are not that many sheep here in the populated East coast. I had to travel to find a teacher and it was therefore very very expensive for 1/2 hour or one hour lessons. Capri had the instinct, I did not. I was always in the wrong place and the sheep knew it. I was spending more $$ on training for me than the "Select" title! Therefore again my choice was to send her away to be "trained" and trialed by a sheepherding "expert" Remember people just like our handlers the owners must do their homework to pick a reputable trainer. I saw personally some of the conditions in which some of these so called trainers kept their dogs and believe me their training methods even to a "novice" like me was UNACCEPTABLE!! Sorry NO THANKS! NO title is worth it. And besides the sheep poop stunk~ Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: Doris E To: marina1@xxxxxxxx ; showlist Sent: Sunday, July 26, 2009 6:37 PM Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: AOE Now, it appears if I ever want another "AOE" title, once again I MUST leave it to some other "expert" to get that job done. Once again my job as the owner will be limited to "just writing another check" to prove to the GSD world my dog can work!. What a BUMMER! Ann Solt Try herding if you get a chance. Both of you will love it. Doris ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.3/395 - Release Date: 7/21/2006 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================