You are right about the "Dual Champion" designation - it does not mean breed champion and any novice level companion/performance title. It means 2 championships - breed and one other. Ruth ________________________________ From: "arycrest@xxxxxxxxxxx" <arycrest@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 10:13:25 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: ALTERED STATES This is a fascinating thread. I'm learning a lot about titles I never knew before!!! I "think" it was on this list, I may be wrong, but within the past month or two there was a short discussion of what a Dual Champion is? Someone claimed that a conformation Champion of record who earned an obedience Companion Dog/CD title (I think it was a CD) could be called a Dual Champion which people pointed out is wrong. But I can't recall if anyone gave the true definition of what a Dual Champion really is - if so I missed it. Any way, here's the AKC definition of a Dual Champion DC title: "DC Dual Champion: Any dog that has been awarded the title of Champion of Record (Ch.) may be designated as a "Dual Champion," after it has also been awarded the title of Field Champion (FC) or Herding Champion (HC) [ Conformation / Field Trial / Herding Trial ] " http://www.akc.org/events/titles.cfm Gayle & the Hooligans! http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=6&uidB94023 - Link to The Hooligans Albums -- Karen M. Carloni <kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 22:40:39 -0500, "Doc Zoe" <wynsum@xxxxxxx> wrote: >Altered dogs can compete in any performance event and >become a CH in that event - so can ILP While the above might be true for GSDs, it isn't true for all breeds. Indeed, each individual performance sport has it own particular rules about which dogs are eligible. For some, spayed and neutered dogs are ineligible to compete, such as the case with Beagle or Basset field trials. And breed standard DQs render any such dogs ineligible to compete in other events such as Lure Coursing. It's enough to make your head spin! ;) -- Karen C. Email: kmc@xxxxxxxxxxxx ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ===========================================================================____________________________________________________________ Find Career Training here. We take Education Seriously. http://thirdpartyoffers.netzero.net/TGL2241/fc/BLSrjpYRdEhZaYeedGtQP6v4pMOEjHUztqOoIMFYeezod5wdp2ZUZcxdrG9/ ===========================================================================POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ =========================================================================== ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================