[ SHOWGSD-L ] AKC facts compared to our National
- From: Pauline Moon <ropajagsd@xxxxxxx>
- To: "showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 04:36:23 -0700 (PDT)
This is a totally erroneous statement by Carolyn about dogs going BIS. My BIS
CH Ropaja's Chateau Beaujolais ROM OFA HIC was bred by me, and owned by me and
handled by someone, who at the time, was a lesser known handler; She won in
both rings! She certainly did not have tens of thousands of dollars spent on
her, nor was she heavily advertised, she was not even advertised period!!!...I
put one ad in the Review and one ad in the CC AFTER she went BIS...and also on
the day she went BIS she was judged by three different judges who were more
than knowledgeable about our breed. AND I value her BIS just as much as those
of you who have bitches you have a Select title or better. Additionally if you
are going to make statements such as this...please note that it also takes
thousands of dollars to show at the National (let's not even mention time and
travel expenses)and those dogs are heavily advertised as to their wins, their
multiple owners, and
their handlers. And don't even go to the political side of this coin; if you
are fortunate enough to be able to have ANY of the top ten handlers in the
country on your dog at our National, you WILL go Select or better...check the
record on that statement; I am certainly not saying that lesser known
dogs/handlers do not go Select... just saying what is!!!
Pauline Moon
http://www.ropajagsd.com/
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Msg: #1 in digest
Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 00:14:04 -0500
Subject: Re: Judges?/ Re: AKC facts compared to our National
From: blackhawkfarms214 <blackhawkfarms214@xxxxxxxxx>
The same goes for the late Suzanne Kinmans sable boy Yancy (BIS/SBIS Ch.
Marquins Yancy D V Adelguard--herding obedience alphabet soup) and his
sable daughter...Ch. Adelgaurd Alone At The Top v Tsali who won a BIS from
the Classes a couple years back. Neither one was adverised heavily if at
all outside of the Review. It does happen and to be the one dog that
remains undefeated at the end of the day...well, it means something to
those who accomplished it.
Mike Lynch
On Sep 23, 2013 12:00 AM, "Kathryn Springer" <showgsd@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> That is not always the case. Several years ago, Dorothy Linn's dog Ch
> Linnloch Silent Knight went BIS from the Am. Bred class at a large bench
> show in No. Cal. He had never been advertised.
> Earlier this year at a very large all breed show that had 3 days of majors
> in shepherds, Ch. Winterhawks Breakfast at Rohan (a Strider daughter) went
> BIS shown by the daughter of the owner/breeder. These were new people in
> the breed and their dogs have never been advertised. They also finished her
> litter brother who was shown by the grand daughter, a Jr.Handler.
>
> So it is rare but it happens when judges judge dogs!
>
> Kay
> Springer
>
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