I know I am late coming into the List's discussion of the Mass shows/AKC Rep issue.? I was off the List for a few weeks due to a heavy work load.? So, I apologize if I repeat what others have already said.? I have tried to catch up some through the archives and through talking with other List members.? I have to say I was SHOCKED when I heard that another exhibitor/double handler has went on record saying that the AKC Rep acted professionally and did nothing out of line and that the GSD exhibitors were all exaggerating what happened.? All I can say to that person is that they must have missed some of the events that I witnessed. Of course, like anything, there are exaggerated stories out there and some have gotten back to me.? The most humorous ones come via people who were not even there.?? However, as someone who was there, spoke with the Rep., and witnessed her words and actions, I can tell you that she acted inappropriately.??Never should she have resorted to putting her hands on people.? And yes she did do that and sometimes she did so very intensely and I believe she crossed the line legally.? If she didn't, she came close and she certainly lacked poise and grace.?? I felt bad for all of the judges who were treated like children.? The judge walked into the ring and stopped judging on multiple occasions to have a "talk" with the judges.? She was not discrete at all, which I feel was not necessary to do to the judges in front of so many exhibitors.? She threatened the judges with actions such as taking entries or wins away etc.? It really was a sad situation for all involved.? The judges, exhibitors, handlers and spectators were all effected negatively.? What is more saddening is that AKC has since went on record defending this Rep's actions 100% without hearing all sides or accounts.....?????????? That said, I think it is completely inappropriate for those not directly involved or effected by the Reps actions to be sending volatile letters to AKC.? I am told that Peter Gaeta mentioned a lack of "relevant" complaints.? Peter really is a good, reasonable person.? So, I tend to believe what he says.? I know Becky meant well by asking everyone to send letters, but I fear this may backfire on us.? I feel that only those who were touched inappropriately or felt threatened by the Reps actions should be sending in detailed accounts/complaints to Peter and AKC.? Also, anyone who actually witnessed any of this should send articulate, professional letters as well.?? I would not try to fight AKC about double handling or anything like that.? I would suggest sticking to the facts of the Reps actions that were inappropriate.? One fact is this Rep has cost those clubs entries.? She has tainted the "sport" of the dog show more than any doubling could ever do.? Nick & I had 10-12 entries at each of the 4 shows.? I doubt we will return.? Not just because of the Rep, but also because the setting of the shows was not conducive to showing, especially in what were suppose to be Specialties and All Breeds with Specialty judges.? Nothing about that setting is positive in regard to the Judges trying to judge, Handlers trying to handle and exhibitors trying to show their animals to the best of their ability.? The building is small and rings are crammed into awkward areas, rings not spaced or sized properly and it's just not a fun way to show dogs.? Thankfully, we were blessed with?GREAT people to be around during the whole ordeal and a very nice hotel with lots of ammenities for all.? For everyone's sake, I hope that Debbie Hokkanen, all the clubs, & AKC can sort this out and find a resolution that will be positive for everyone.? Jeff Pyle ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================