Have you thought about working on a "sit for exam" first? With behavior like your dog is showing that would be my recommendation. And I'd have the food come from the strangers. Everything needs to be scaffolded: first she needs to sit stay when you praise and pet her. Teach her to sit stay while you walk around her in circles and find other distractions. When she is strong in that stage of the sit stay, start having your strangers walk past her at a little distance, and make her hold the sit stay. As she gains confidence, have them gradually move closer. They should have yummy food in their hand. Eventually they should stop slightly to one side, and offer the food. When she takes it, they walk away. Again, gradually, you would have them touch first her chest, then her neck, her head, and finally pet her from head to tail. Each succeed should be rewarded. Be careful about your feeding her when she is showing the nervous about strangers behavior. YOu may inadvertently be reinforcing the behavior you don't want. From the strong sit for exam it becomes easier to do the stand for exam, expecially if you use the suitcase method. That is passing the leash under her loins and holding the straps like a suitcase. That gives you control over the front and back of your dog. Once you have that solid sit-stay, however, it's very easy to teach the stand for exam. Five weeks is a very short period of time to do a whole lot more than set a foundation. It takes time and patience to go step by step to make your dog reliable. IMHO. Leslye Morrow Member GSDCA Shofar Shepherds and Shelties ----- Original Message ---- From: Kristen Cabe <showgsdlist@xxxxxxxxx> To: SHOWGSD-L <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, September 4, 2007 3:26:01 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] AKC Novice OB question I need some help with the 'stand for exam' exercise. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433 ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================