I didn't know that tidbit of history- TY I do know that the WV is also an FCI breed long before becoming over the pond and coming into the AKC FSS; I think because they were unknown to the states previously and of course weren't already registered with AKC as something else, unlike the position the white coated GSD is in. Kinda like apples & oranges on that one, just my humble thinking there. The UKC also registers the WV with full privileges for a number of years. FWIW, it seems to me as pretty much EVERY new AKC breed in recent years (say 15 or so) was a UKC registered *ONLY* breed in so far as being with an "all-breed registry" (as many breeds kept their own registries that EVERY member breeder used for EVERY dog and EVERY litter [unlike with the AWSA registry, as the thought was/is (as told to me by many) that ppl want to have AKC papers, but people are perfectly willing to not get AKC papers when it's not an AKC breed at all; I know from experience there], and the UKC has allowed new breeds from those registries as well). I don't know what's with the Mini Aussie however- again, an excellent place where AKC should open up for varieties within breeds again, but we all know that's just a financial move on the part of the AKC and show superintendents, and varieties need their own set of ribbons, judges' books, etc., so I don't see THAT happening since they are corporations first! JP&P thinking many would be happy having a variety within the GSD JayDee's Proud-Haus Shepherds/Proud K911 www.jaydeesphs.com Committed to the Total Dog you can be Proud of!!! AKC Breeder of Merit > On Nov 15, 2013, at 9:04, barbara17236@xxxxxxx wrote: > > Two Vizsla bitches were bred to a solid liver German Wirehaired Pointer and > by 1944, 60 three-generation dogs were registered in the stud book. The first > Wirehaired Vizslas were imported to NorthAmerica in the early 1970s. > > I am guessing the three founding dogs used as foundation stock were NOT AKC > registered? And, the WH Vizslas are an import into the US. > > Barb Hively - PA > DNA. It's what makes a white, a German Shepherd > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Zoa Rockenstein <zrockenstein@xxxxxxxxx> > To: proudk9 <proudk9@xxxxxxxxx>; barbara17236 <barbara17236@xxxxxxx> > Cc: Showgsd-l <Showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Fri, Nov 15, 2013 9:51 am > Subject: Re: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: AKC FSS Rules > > And how about the new wirehaired vizsla? What's up with that? Is that not a > variation of an AKC recognizable breed? > > Dr. Zoa Rockenstein > www.riverrockgermanshepherds.com ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================