It is interesting to note that in matters of law, such secret meetings/executive meetings, whatever you want to call them, have been found to violate the intention of having such meetings, especially when serious decisions and votes are made or take place at such "closed" sessions and the meetings were closed to avoid open and perhaps heated discussion. . Open meetings laws "are there for a purpose:" public discourse and open decision-making. The purpose of the BOG is to advise members what business was conducted...closing sessions precludes this information sharing...I would never myself take it to court.. .but I would bet a court would find the executive sessions held this year, where the express purpose was to avoid public discourse and open decision-making, that is, specifically to keep business secret from the members, to be improper, and in violation of the spirit of having such a club in the first place. I feel obligated to remind the list that if it were not for a closed "executive" session, most of this nonsense would have occurred anyway, because Andrew Hunte would never have been allowed to become a member of the GSDCA. That first closed meeting, which resulted in him being allowed to become a member, is what started all the problems we have faced this year with the possible exception of the current situation concerning the Club Secretary. also, Mike Liosis notwithstanding, if he didn't have the GSDCA By-Laws in hand, could very well have been speaking out of turn. Just because he works for the AKC doesn't mean he's infallible. Nice guy, tho. Peggy......... Nancy Harper wrote: >Diana, >Thank you very much for sharing the information from Mike Liosis. It is >very important for the members of the GSDCA to know and understand that >certain rules should be followed pertaining to the 'protection of the >society: and the members within that society. > >Not every issue can be addressed in a Society's By-Laws, it is impossible to >do so. Roberts' Rules takes up where By-Laws leave off. If a situation >presents itself that calls for a decision backed by action.& By-Laws do not >address that particular issue it's a good thing that Robert's is there to >guide a governing body. By -Laws also trump Policy and Procedures if the >two conflict on a particular issue. >What about the ethics of discussing a sensitive subject in an open forum? >Do we not have a responsibility to protect our members? >It is too bad that some of our members believe that Executive Sessions have >been held because of a desire to keep information from the membership. >Executive Sessions, of which there have been very few, have been held, in >my opinion, for very legitimate reasons. >Nancy Harper > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================