I actually do not agree with that.....because it would just be MORE 'legislation' and someone telling us what and who we can and cannot show our dogs under. Our National judges are VOTED for. If the members, exhibitors, breeders, want the same judges over and over....they are the ones that know who they want to show their dogs under. If you want a different judge...NOMINATE them under the rules of how they qualify.....then let the people VOTE! Remember...there are judges you will drive or fly to show under and some you will not exhibit under in your own back yard. If we HAD to go through every single AKC GSD Judge that ever got their license... just BECAUSE it was a rule..and they were licensed... I cannot see that working............<G> Carolyn marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com -----Original Message----- From: showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:showgsd-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 12:09 PM To: Martello, Carolyn Cc: showgsd-l; Hope, Stormy Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: AKC Breeder-2-Breeder /state of affairs IMO How about this change ( let me have my fun since I only have 3 weeks to discuss club issues) You can only judge BOB at the National 3 times!....that along with term limits will also never happen...yes I know we have had several wonderful judges who have done BOB more than 3 times....but there are other very very good judges who have NEVER judged BOB at the National...why? because we keep rotating the same folks!.....the National is the biggest show of the year, we need to limit the number of times a judge can do this show.........just think next year NO MORE Ideas and suggestions from me about what I think will make this club better!...lol....I'm running for school board next year, and let me tell ya why I'll get my butt kicked in that election !..I think there should be cameras in the classroom, teachers should work 8-5, with a starting pay of $ 90,000.00...kids should be paid ( not with money) to attend class, school uniforms for kids k-8, foreign language should be manda tory curriculum from grades 1-8.......free breakfast EVERY DAY for ALL STUDENTS!..........my principal is very glad Im retired! Ed ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carolyn Martello" <marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx, "ShowGSD" <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, stormy435@xxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 11:36:36 AM Subject: Re:  AKC Breeder-2-Breeder /state of affairs IMO I don't know why some ideas go over OK and some do not. But I don't think the Board is to blame.  The problem is US! I think we shoot ourselves in the foot!!! When the "discussion" over the Standard was going on I often felt discouraged, as many were e-mailing me privately encouraging me to continue speaking up!  When asked to join me....almost ALL were afraid to. Their "fear" was that most of the Board was made up of Judges.  Judges they might want to exhibit under! Since Ed speaks up about 'no one is listening' and about TERM LIMITS, I think we also need to speak up about Judges on our Board.  I truly believe a Board member should NEVER be allowed to judge the National while they are sitting on the Board!  ( Kill me now.....I'll probably never be able to show again )  <G> Ed says he's leaving the Parent Club....I may be THROWN OUT!  <G> Seriously....I don't think the Judges are the problem so much as our own fear and reluctance to stand UP and SPEAK up!  The problem is the ILLUSION, or PERCEPTION of a problem that seems to set "FEAR" in the heart of many.  Again...our own fault. (The 'bullet to the foot') Many also have the same fear over losing a handler.  What is wrong with us?!  I personally would rather speak up now, than cringe in fear with the words still in my heart when I'm done..... The only fear we should have is concern for ruining our own Breed, and for all the wrong reasons.  #1 FEAR, laziness, popularity, money, ego, easiest shortest route to a winner, ignoring problems.....etc. Being on the Board is a tremendous job!  Lots of work..long hours, lots of decisions and paper work.  Naturally most are not going to jump on every suggestion we make and take on the task.  If we really want to get some new ideas and projects good for the Breed....DO IT. Mike Metz suggested a 'round table' discussion for Breeder/Exhibitors at this last National..then he went ahead with the idea and made it happen.  AWESOME idea and a good job getting it done.  A great idea I hope really grows..  Carolyn  marhaven@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx www.marhaven.com -----Original Message----- From:  On Behalf Of edwinx@xxxxxxxxxxx These are some of the things I begged our parent club to do! About ten years ago while attending the winter shows in Chicago, the hotel I was staying at was hosting the National Racing Pigeon Seminar! I walked in, grabbed a donut, sat down and listened to the speaker for a few minutes! Later that same night at the Chicago show I approached a Long time board member with the ideaof our club doing something like this! He/she said no one would come! What a great attitude! Not trying to bad mouth the club, cuz I've been a member for the most part of the last 30 years! we finally got streaming videoafter years of members like Evan and a few others begging for this. Thenwe took a big step backwards and didn't have it this year, but we sponsored the Working trials! I know this post sounds like sour grapes cuz mydivorce from the club becomes final on Dec 31, but I believe every club needs members that don't always go with "flow" members that are not afraid tospeak up for positive CHANGE and new creative ideas and programs! How aboutthose Raiders!  FB Sent from Xfinity Connect Mobile App ------ Original Message ------ From: Stormy V. HopeAKC Breeder-2-Breeder Livestreamed Tomorrow For your information AKC Breeder-2-Breeder Livestreamed Tomorrow by americankennelclub AKC will host the second AKC Breeder-2-Breeder seminar tomorrow, Friday, December 12 from 1:00 pm to 5:00 pm at the Orange County Convention Center. Respected experts presenting include Anne Bowes, Jimmy Moses, nutritionist Russ Kelley and theriogenologist Dr. Marty Greer, with AKC Assistant Vice President Mari-Beth O'Neill and Bowes moderating. The seminar will cover the selection and evaluation of dogs for breeding purposes, neonatal and early puppy nutrition, the science of dog reproduction, and raising and training puppies. Even if you can't make it to Orlando, you'll still be able to enjoy the AKC Breeder-2-Breeder seminar via livestream. Tune in here on Friday, December 12 from 1:00 pm to 5:00 pm to enjoy the presentations. americankennelclub | December 11, 2014 at 8:00 am | Tags: breeder, dog breeder, dog breeders, dog reproduction, puppy nutrition, raising puppies, training puppies \Categories: AKC Breeder-2-Breeder | URL: http://wp.me/p3l97q-1Ck Comment  See all comments Change your email settings at Manage Subscriptions. Trouble clicking? Copy and paste this URL into your browser: http://akcdoglovers.com/2014/12/11/akc-breeder-2-breeder-livestreamed -tomorrow/Thanks for flying with  WordPress.com Stormy V. Hope https://www.facebook.com/GSDCA.LegislationAwareness https://www.facebook.com/CaRPOC.CaliforniaResponsiblePetOwnersCoalition ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2014. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. 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