Stormy is correct. There are too many ways that auto-immunity can surface...and until it does, no one knows that a dog, or person, has the problem. Some problems are a result of an auto-immune deficiency, but they may be the only problems. Just because a dog or person has an auto-immune problem doesn't mean the entire immune system has failed or will fail. Peggy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Stormy435@xxxxxxx> To: <Dir@xxxxxxxxxx>; <showgsd-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 9:36 PM Subject: [ SHOWGSD-L ] Re: AIHA...help > Sandi, I am certainly not a vet, but decided shortly after one of my > especial litters that I was never going to breed from that litter. > > Auto-immune encompasses so much...Juvenile mange? Pano? reaction to > normal > immunizations? Breaking out in horrible hives after being roughly > handled > for OFA x-rays? ?stress?. Ear infections with no reason?. Skin diseases? > All > of these are indicative of a compromised immune system. Low birth rate? > sterility? who knows? > > > And those are only the more mild results of an immune compromised system. > The problem is how does one isolate and work with the symptoms to breed it > out > of the next generations? > > > Stormy > In a message dated 12/9/07 6:24:08 PM, Dir@xxxxxxxxxx writes: > > >> Could a small animal veterinarian on this LIST please tell us about >> symptoms >> of auto immune diease and if suspected where to go from there. Thanks. >> Sandi >> > > > > > > > "You may never know what results come from your action. > But if you do nothing, there will be no result." > Mahatma Gandhi > Stormy Hope > *~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~*~~* > Dog's love is different, it requires no return > www.FairhopeGSD.com > > > > ************************************** > Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest > products. > > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ============================================================================ > POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the > original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or > FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the > original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. > > ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY > MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS > PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY > FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL > BE PROSECUTED. > > For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx > > VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org > ============================================================================ > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.17/1179 - Release Date: > 12/9/2007 11:06 AM > > ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================