Evan, Just a couple quik questions...Should a "No trespassing" sign be posted on my security fence that surrounds my kennel and also includes my backdoor to my house? And do you consider it necessary to put paddlelocks on gaits or are clips considered enough notice along with signs not to enter property? Thanks -- Michelle ....................................................... Michelle... Although not addressed to me, I'd like to respond if you don't mind. And if you do, then I am in bad trouble cause it's already sent! <g> You do not have to sign your property to guarantee your right to privacy. It is in the big sign, The Constitution of the United States, which of course may not apply anymore in some minds. No one, regardless of how official may enter your property and do a search for evidence against you without a warrant. No one can obtain a warrant without presenting to a judge a reasonable belief, based on objective facts, that would make a reasonable person believe that you were, at that point in time, holding on your person or property evidence of a crime. This is a fundamental right that the founders of this nation did not enjoy on the continent in all cases before coming here and thought it would be a good idea to guarantee for all time to our citizens. It has undergone attack in the courts over the years but has survived to some degree and is still our right. The courts have held that if I (an officer of the law) see something illegal in the course of another procedure, it is admissible. So officers have learned to do what is called a knock and talk. That is, knock on the door and when invited in by a polite person, look around to see if they have drugs, drug paraphernalia, of in our case, too many dogs, then, incidental to the interview evidence is discovered and is admissible. While I am not in favor of people hiding their law breaking, I am more concerned with the authoritarian potential of our shift away from personal rights and liberties. So I always advise people to not allow anyone of an official nature into your house at all. You don't have to be polite and regardless of the pressing nature of the person trying to get you to let them in, simply don't. I have nothing to hide at my house. I am in a general rural zone and there are no animal restrictions, but none-the-less, if only to protect the nature and intent of the Constitution, everyone is welcome except officials investigating me. It has never happened to me but that is my stance. On the other hand I know practically every cop in the valley and have high regard for them and regularly get together socially, but I am not interested in shifting the power base to a police state and I do not to ruin perfectly good people who might enjoy their power too much. The sign is already out. It is called the constitution. Dave ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================