In a message dated 8/16/13 5:39:40 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, arcturusgermanshepherds@xxxxxxxxx writes: We need to recognize the breeders of whites are as passionate as we are and it does no good to present false or half truths. More than that we need to go look at the whites. I know many of those who have voiced an opinion on the List have never taken time to look at what they have done with the breed. I know another of the Lister's also judged their National. All I can say is I was blown away by the secondary sex characteristics, the bone, and the temperament. They seems to need front reach, but I saw nothing but good follow-through, which we need. And, if we are going to talk pigment, they had black noses, dark eyes, and dark toe nails. More so than many of our black and tans. I don't know what I will do with the vote, but I sure do recognize what they have done with their belief in a German shepherd. Evan L. Ginsburg gsyrfund.com Asgard German Shepherds _http://www.asgardgsd.com_ (http://www.asgardgsd.com/) Where Type Movement and Temperament come together ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================