This has been a good discussion and I applaud the administration for letting it play out. Its what we have needed for a long time. I know I for one, never truly understood the genetics behind the white shepherd, or the ramifications either. In my opinion, we need to take a long range view of this. We need to recognize the breeders of whites are as passionate as we are and it does no good to present false or half truths. I also recognize there will always be some people or group that will not be happy, no matter how hard we try. Nonetheless, its time to make a decision, and that decision falls squarely on the membership. I'm not sure just what the committee who changed the DQ to a fault was charged with doing. I'ld like to suggest some more work for them! That would be to put together a factual syllabus about the genetics behind the white shepherd and perhaps statistics as well. ie: what is the percentage of white shepherds in the breed? how many are born to colored parents, ect. We need to drop the hysteria. We all spend time thoughtfully planning a pedigree. We may choose to breed to a sable, knowing the sable color is dominate, or we may choose to breed to a black or a dog that carries black Because We Want That Color or Don't Want It. Whites in the pedigree would be no different. Its not like there are not thousands of dogs to choose from! Nonetheless, after careful consideration with truthful facts we should make a decision, and like Kathy states "all in or all out". If we choose all out, then I would like to see us do what we can to help them develop their own breed. If this means going to the AKC and working with them until they help us and change their own rules, then so be it. If this means developing a 5 year exit plan, then that is what we do. There would need to be a period of time for white shepherd owners to transfer to the new breed club. Lets handle this thoughtfully and with dignity. ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================