Morten and Evan, While I feel you are both good people. I can only agree with Evan on this matter. Morten I did see your GSD (German dog) near Chicago a few years ago on the grooming table with Cheri and then at the show. He is the best German type dog I have ever seen. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>... In a message dated 8/6/2009 11:36:16 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, janandmort@xxxxxxx writes: We all benefit in the international arena of German Shepherds . Evan< wrote> I am not saying no. But, how do we benefit? In the SV they can't breed to any American dogs. In most of Europe they make fun of the American style dog. Those who compete at the World trials use only dogs bred in Germany. I know it sounds good that the GSDCA is at the World Trials, but please tell me how it helps us? I know we placed well a couple of years ago. I didn't see any increase in membership, any less complaints about American bred dogs, or any increase in friendship from Germany. Maybe I am just missing the point, but it would be nice to know how we benefit. It sounds good, but I haven't seen it. ......................................................................................................... Werner http://imagegermanshepherds.com/ BISS Am/Can CH. Scher-Lo's Mr Karizma HIC.OFA h&e Am.CH. Hadori's Samantha OFA h&e B.O.F CH. Pointed, Lorien's Play By Play OFA h&e ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2008. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================