First off I Do Not have a horse in this race and have been soul searching for my own answers with this being put before us by so many people I have looked up to since my beginnings in dogs in the early 70's. I wish there was a simple answer, however, we all can see there is not! Its like when someone does something hurtful and I'm told "don't take it personal" ... Ha, "how can I not?" is my normal reply when so much of our lives have been guided by a "standard", "a bible" or "our constitution". Much like the catholic church being divided about gay marriage and adoptions...as time goes on I hope we get smarter, more informed, have factual evidence and be more kinder to what other people want whether we agree or not. I also like to see and understand things from both sides, which doesn't make me a fence sitter, just curious as to why all sides are so passionate. And That I have found to be very educational on this white topic. If every member of this list was allowed a vote, whether they are a member of the gsdca or not, learning all this valuable info from every fraction, how & what would the outcome be? Wouldn't that interest everyone? Would it bring back passionate non renewing members??? How many list members are there compared to GSDCA members? Would this help reunite our club, make it stronger and then move to help this group of people in getting something they can live with and become??? I have to say this too...I commend this board, the committees etc for not ignoring this issue any longer for No One in the USA should be treated less then, left to the end of a meeting and then told sorry not enough of us are here to hear you out...and many more excuses that prior boards have used to let these people be led on not for months BUT YEARS. That people is disgusting and shameful. People want to pick on this board as they do so with past other boards but they seem to still be cleaning up after what was left for them to fix and they get the brunt of the unhappiness but what choices do they have? Its a thankless disheartening job of which so many of my friends have served every time asked, I have said "No Thank You"... If people only knew half the stuff...you'd really be amazed!!! Signed Just Curious Sent from Donna on her new iPhone ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2012. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Each Author is responsible for the content of his/her post. This group and its administrators are not responsible for the comments or opinions expressed in any post. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://showgsd.org SUBSCRIPTION:http://showgsd.org/mail.html NATIONAL BLOG - http://gsdnational.blogspot.com/ ============================================================================