I won't win either, but here's what I have.....!! Anna (10) Indy (7) Faith (4) TJ (3) Haylee (11 mo.) KC (11 mo.) Joey (11 mo.) who is a puppy return but it feels like he never left...LOL!! Only one I have problems with is Indy, I call him an old f*rt b/c he gives the puppies that "get away from me kid, ya bother me" growl. He and TJ grumble at each other as well, off and on. The puppies still sleep in their crates at night though - too many messes otherwise!! Gail Bauman - Liebchen Kennels 11 month old male show prospect available http://www.geocities.com/liebchenkennels/puppies-available.html ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2005. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - http://www.showgsd.org ============================================================================