In a message dated 7/29/2007 9:01:00 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ELG440@xxxxxxx writes: The idea is, that if there was a Club Member Only List then someone from the Club could control what is said on it. Only information allowed by whoever is chosen to limit it, would go out. This is never a good way to grow or to learn, but it would keep secret what those who want a limited List would do. It is self-defeating, but I say, go for it, and learn. We have never before seen this idea of keeping things secret. It is going to change in a few months as we elect a new board. The new board always takes a new approach. This board has worked hard for us, and made some mistakes. They have wanted the information kept quiet, and it makes sense, but didn't happen. Let me explain this just a little different. The GSD Forum is privately owned. The Parent Club has absolutely nothing to do with it, good or bad. I am one of the moderators, and if a topic was to get out of hand, it will be dealt with right away. There are 3 of us to make that decision, and as busy people we are, we are very no-nonsense. The GSD Forum was created to give the members and opportunity to have a place where Parent Club business can be discussed, by members only. Now, having eliminated the "we should not be discussing club business in a forum with non club members" excuse, I have learned that we are going to talk, pretty much without control, and sometimes out of control, anywhere we want, anytime we want. That would probably be the feeling about a Parent Club/Members Only List. Too controlling. However, as with tools, you can never have enough information. (TIP: I have better results login in thru Internet Explorer. So if you are having problems, try that.) So, for those who want to, The GSD Forum is available. There is NO obligation to join. It seems interesting enough for some strangers to want to join <G>. (they are deleted daily) Ileana ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ============================================================================ POST is Copyrighted 2007. All material remains the property of the original author and of GSD Communication, Inc. NO REPRODUCTIONS or FORWARDS of any kind are permitted without prior permission of the original author AND of the Showgsd-l Management. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. ALL PERSONS ARE ON NOTICE THAT THE FORWARDING, REPRODUCTION OR USE IN ANY MANNER OF ANY MATERIAL WHICH APPEARS ON SHOWGSD-L WITHOUT THE EXPRESS PERMISSION OF ALL PARTIES TO THE POST AND THE LIST MANAGEMENT IS EXPRESSLY FORBIDDEN, AND IS A VIOLATION OF LAW. VIOLATORS OF THIS PROHIBITION WILL BE PROSECUTED. For assistance, please contact the List Management at admin@xxxxxxxxxxxx VISIT OUR WEBSITE - www.showgsd.org ============================================================================